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're talking with mike magner, the "national journal" energy and environment managing editor. he's also got this terrific book called poisoned legacy, great read about bp's rise to power. bp both on how they handled the gulf coast spill but also some other things in their record. mike, how bad are things in the coast right now? >> oh, boy, there is a long way to go on the cleanup. bp spilled an estimated five million barrels of oil into the gulf and in addition to a lot of natural gas that leaked and then when they were trying to clean it up, they used all of these dispersants, these chemicals that have really never been used on that scale. they cleaned up a lot of it by burning some of it off the surface and scrubbing what landed on the beaches but i talked yesterday to people in louisiana who say that there's still at least a million barrels out there. some of it is in wetlands in louisiana that's really difficult to clean up. and some of it -- because of the dispersants is still floating around out there. in particles and at
to better protect our diplomats on our posts around the world in this challenging environment that we're in? all these, i think, are legitimate, but i'd love to see us end the partisan wrangling over this and return to what i think ought to be the essential focus, and that is where are we on the hunt for those responsible and bringing them to justice? jon: there were two attacks we're talking about here, obviously. one on the consulate and then one, apparently better organized with the use of mortars, that kind of thing, that hit the cia safehouse some hours later. are you thinking that perhaps some of the lives lost in that second attack could have been saved or should have been saved? >> well, you know, i think it's really a question of whether we had adequate security there and how much of this we can foresee. um, the folks that were involved acted in the most heroic ways, and i wish we could get out more of the information, frankly, about the heroism involved in those that were at the annex and those at the diplomatic post. one of the things, again, i think the pickering commission will
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